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alyssacla

Martin Amis's "The Zone of Interest" - 20 views

    • savannahroach
       
      This quote makes me think that the soldiers do not want to do what they are commanded but are forced to.
    • giakoumj
       
      The author uses repetition here which catches the readers attention and makes the line or paragraph more memorable.
  • “I feel that if you knew every day, every hour, every minute of human history, you would find no exemplum, no model, no precedent.”
    • tyvon014
       
      had to use my context clues and google to actually find out what exemplum means.
    • alyssacla
       
      I remember my high school English teacher using the term exemplum in class.
    • savannahroach
       
      I think this quote is saying that if we did not have history then we would not have anything to learn from.
    • giakoumj
       
      Again, the author uses repetition here making the quote more memorable.
    • trellababy
       
      I think the author uses some vague words to really describe the people and the things that happened.
    • trellababy
       
      The author says how the things were passed down to the younger people but its becoming more wary and to me it sounds like he is saying that the younger people don't take it serious or think it s important.
    • trellababy
       
      I like how he describes the place as "hellish" because he basically is saying this is not he place you want to be and gives the readers an incite or maybe an image that connect with that word.
    • trellababy
       
      I like how they said the author din't want it be funny. Drawing conclusion from it, basically saying the book was meant to show love and have a meaning behind it.
    • trellababy
       
      The author of this article explained how the boy and the tree both had flaws. I kind of pulled from that and I think they author of the story put it like that so they could maybe help each other out.
    • trellababy
       
      I don't really understand how they compared a woman and a soldier to relate to each other. "Conversely, teaching :"The Giving Tree as a model for how a woman should be like is like saying that same solider sets an example."
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  • “He has so far gone unnamed in this book; but now I am obliged to type out the words ‘Adolf Hitler.’
    • savannahroach
       
      I feel like they didn't mention Adolf Hitler's name because they were somewhat afraid of him and what he is capable of.
  • We went along. We went along, we went along with, doing all we could to drag our feet . . . but we went along.
    • warreng14
       
      This quote shows the commitment Thomsen's had for his job or duty.
    • tyvon014
       
      i agree it tells that he goes for what he want.
  • The novel, in its most inspired moments, is a compendium of epiphanies, appalled asides, anecdotes, and radically condensed history.
  • Obersturmfuhrer Angelus (Golo) Thomsen, a mid-level Nazi officer in charge of the Buna-Werke factory, and the favored nephew of the high-ranking Nazi Martin Bormann
  • The effect of the Holocaust isn’t singular but cumulative.
    • warreng14
       
      So is he saying that the effect of Holocaust is increasing?
    • marygorman95
       
      I think she's saying the effect of the Holocaust didn't just have an impact on one single thing, but many different things! 
    • tyvon014
       
      this says that that the holocaust had more than one impact on society.
  • The author’s rage at Holocaust horrors is portioned into scenes and sentences; it does not gather into a powerful swell, to overwhelm or terrify.
  • “To produce a mighty book, you must choose a mighty theme,” as Melville declares in “Moby-Dick”; but such mightiness may be precluded by a mode of writing whose ground bass is irony rather than empathy.
    • giakoumj
       
      The author describes the book here. The critical tone and the description of the book would make the reader uninterested in reading the novel.
  • reverie of Doll’s: “She is a personable and knowing young female, albeit too flachbrustig (though her Arsch is perfectly all right, and if you hoiked up that tight skirt you’d . . . Don’t quite see why I write like this. It isn’t my style at all).”
    • marygorman95
       
      She takes many quotes form the book for proof of her comments and opinions. 
  • Yet Thomsen is a self-described Aryan specimen—six feet three, with cobalt-blue “arctic eyes” and “thighs as solid as hewn masts.”
    • marygorman95
       
      This shows some of the imagery in the book.
  • would find no exemplum, no model, no precedent.”
    • Myra J
       
      This sentence really makes me think
  • the Jews’d give us the same treatment if they had ½ a chance,
    • Myra J
       
      They feel as if the Jews would kill them first if they were given the chance, but they are really just assuming
  • And mind you, disposing of the young and the elderly requires other strengths and virtues—fanaticism, radicalism, severity, implacability, hardness, iciness, mercilessness, und so weiter
    • Myra J
       
      If we knew everything that had occured then there would be no point in history
  • Given this fascination, it’s curious that Hitler has no presence in “The Zone of Interest” except as a quasi-mythic figure revered and feared by more ordinary Nazis.
    • Myra J
       
      This section really made me question why Hitler did what he did to the Jews
  • I used to be numb; now I’m raw.
    • erindn
       
      The most common cause of such numbness I find is a losing of something of oneself, whether that be freedom, health, hope, or moral.
  • except as a quasi-mythic figure revered and feared by more ordinary Nazis
    • erindn
       
      I never believed that Hitler could be seen as mythic, but perhaps that is because I focus on the big picture rather then the 'little' things such as chain of command, individual camps, and individual victims.
  • human history that has always included warfare, unspeakable cruelty, and attempted genocide; what set the Nazis apart from less efficient predecessors was their twentieth-century access to the instruments of industrialized warfare and annihilation, and a propaganda machine
    • erindn
       
      God, I wish this was not true. The only reason that the Holocaust is in the forefront of our minds when we think of Genocide and racial supremacy is the simple fact that it is the most modern. The means in which everything was done and accomplished is so much more advanced then predecessors that it is more commonly recognized in the act of torture. You dont still here of the Brazen Bull or acts of Genocide that started in the 1400s'.
  • One could argue, just as plausibly, that Hitler and
  • “to write poetry after Auschwitz
    • opstokes
       
      I can understand why someone would think it might not be good to write about these horrible events
  • one does not look directly into the sun.”
    • opstokes
       
      i like this quote because it is saying don't be harsh in your approach
  • He sits through Nazi concerts calculating “how long it would take . . . to gas the audience.”
    • opstokes
       
      This man has been horrible things happen,similar in some ways to kindred
    • shaylas_
       
      Why is Hitler not called be his name? Is this due to fear or respect?
  • well the labour strength
    • shaylas_
       
      To "Swell the labour strength" - Is this to make sure the workers are working harder?
  • . There it is, you see. The Jews can only prolong their lives by helping the enemy to victory—a victory that for the Jews means what?
    • shaylas_
       
      Is this a contradiction? the goal was to eliminate the world of the jews...So if the "enemy" is given victory.. How does that help the jews? The jews are in a lose-lose situation.
    • alyssacla
       
      The sentence is kind of confusing. I agree that it is a contradiction.
  • but the mannerism is as distracting as a nudge in the ribs.
    • shaylas_
       
      The author did a good job with description, i can imagine how distracting the mannerism is, since it is being considered to a "nudge in the ribs"..which is very distracting. 
    • trellababy
       
      Does it mean that it's having an effect on the world?
  • The Death Factory
  • “vultures of the crematory
    • trellababy
       
      This quote seems to be a little vague or maybe even a little harsh to use to describe.
  • The Zone is a place to which Jewish “evacuees” are brought by train to be used as forced labor or to be gassed straightaway, their remains deposited in the euphemistically named but foul-smelling Spring Meadow.
    • heatherann96
       
      This is terrible. I still find it unbelievable when I hear of the things that he Jews were put through during the holocaust. How could someone do such things to innocent people?
    • alyssacla
       
      The Jew were treated this way because they weren't concerned the "superior" race and the Nazis wanted to wipe them out.
  • Somebody will one day come to the ghetto or the Lager and account for the near-farcical assiduity of the German hatred.
    • heatherann96
       
      i feel like they're saying that someday someone will pay for all the hatred given by the germans by in the holocaust.
  • The Zone is a place to which Jewish “evacuees” are brought by train to be used as forced labor or to be gassed straightaway, their remains deposited in the euphemistically named but foul-smelling Spring Meadow
    • cntaylor
       
      To me the section talking about a spring meadow is ironic because of the horrible things that took place.
  • Here is a wickedly funny Monty Python figure in Nazi regalia:
    • cntaylor
       
      When I hear the word funny I do not picture Nazi at all.
  • “We know a great deal about the how—about how he did what he did; but we seem to know almost nothing about the why.”
    • cntaylor
       
      I have often wondered why Hitler did the things he did. Could it have been something from his childhood or past?
trellababy

'The Giving Tree': Tender Story of Unconditional Love or Disturbing Tale of Selfishness... - 5 views

    • giakoumj
       
      The author gives an example of the adjectives in "The Giving Tree" and shows how the adjectives are limited and very simple and basic words.
    • giakoumj
       
      The author pulls up other reviews on "The Giving Tree" which help support her argument here. The support from other readers makes it more likely that other people will support her argument as well.
    • giakoumj
       
      The author is attacking Silverstein here by criticizing his book and saying that anyone who tries to defend it or say that is has a good moral to it wrong. The author uses a harsh, critical tone which makes the paragraph more of an attack.
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    • opstokes
       
      I do think this book is read by many children but i don't think it has an negative impact
    • opstokes
       
      I wonder if the tree wanted the boy as much as the boy wanted pieces of the tree
  • I love Silverstein’s profoundly playful stuff so much more than “The Giving Tree,” but I like playfulness in general best, because I can take it more seriously.
    • opstokes
       
      I think the light tone makes it easier to approach
  • Each happy alters the happy that follows it.
    • trellababy
       
      I think this means that with every happy's, there is a happy that tries to destroy it.
  • The boy and the tree are both “flawed,” and in the most old-fashioned way, their flaws, which are also their characters, determine their fates.
    • trellababy
       
      I like the wording of this basically saying that the tree and the boy had issues 
  • Silverstein would have made it funny, if that was what it was meant to be.
    • trellababy
       
      This is true. If the story was meant to be funny it would have been but it was meant to show love and leave a meaning behind it.
  • onversely, teaching
shaylas_

'The Giving Tree': Tender Story of Unconditional Love or Disturbing Tale of Selfishness... - 1 views

    • Myra J
       
      the author provides evidence of how she is not alone on her opinion of how terrible the book is
  • he tree of Silverstein’s imagination, unlike most other trees felled by humans, suffers mightily but never dies, left to live out her years as a five-fingered stump, abandoned in the grass like the orphaned foot of a gentle sauropod.
    • Myra J
       
      I like how the tree can be used to represent the way humans ravage in the environment
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  • and in interviews Shel Silverstein explained that it took him years to find a publisher for “The Giving Tree” — that it had been important to him that he keep what he called the sad ending.
    • Myra J
       
      He wanted to keep a sad ending because it represented his sadness he went through to publish the book
    • shaylas_
       
      The author makes sure to let the reader know that she as read the book, more than once, and still does not like it.
  • “The Nazis would have loved it,
    • shaylas_
       
      Was this statement intended to make readers assume that the book is evil or bad? When one thinks of Nazis it brings about a negative connotation.
  • . The boy uses the tree as a plaything, lives off her like a parasite, and then, when she’s a shell of her former self and no longer serves any real purpose, he sits on her — which makes her happy? (“That book is the epitome of male privilege,” a friend groused.)
    • shaylas_
       
      The author uses words like "parasite" to show her disgust of the relationship between the boy and the tree. Again, she is using phrases or words that come with a negative connotation. 
  • poor Oedipus
  • Hands Are Not for Hitting.
  • Mrs. Dalloway
    • shaylas_
       
      The author uses a lot of comparison to other classics, in order to argue her point.
  • to have a conversation about what it means to take, and to give, too much.”
sparton2

'The Giving Tree': Tender Story of Unconditional Love or Disturbing Tale of Selfishness... - 9 views

    • savannahroach
       
      So the novel is about a boy or a man taking advantage of a women. The book describes how the boy uses the women for pleasure, "lives off her like a parasites, and then, when she's a shell of her farmer self no longer serves any real purpose, he sits on her..".
  • “I don’t want to hold the tree accountable,” she continued, but she thinks there could have been a happier ending: “If only she’d set limits, she wouldn’t be a stump today!”
    • savannahroach
       
      She explains that if "the tree" said no to the boy or limited what the boy took from her she wouldn't end up a stump. This means if the woman said no to the man she wouldn't feel that everything was taken from her.
    • warreng14
       
      I like the way you explained that Savannah
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  • The boy and the tree are both “flawed,” and in the most old-fashioned way, their flaws, which are also their characters, determine their fates.
    • savannahroach
       
      This means that "the tree" and the boy both have problems. If "the tree" said no to the boy then she wouldn't end up as just a stump. And if the boy was told no he may have learned something from that and wouldn't have ended up sad.
    • warreng14
       
      They both have some issues that ended up tying into there character, which determined there outcome.
    • kproper
       
      'The Giving Tree' is about people take advantage of other people and don't really take into consideration how the other person feels. They themself just wants to be happy.
    • kproper
       
      I use to like to read Silverstein's books as a child. They were silly at times, But his some of his books like 'The Giving Tree' has a message or a moral.
  • “Most disgusting book ever,” said one. “One star or five, there is no middle ground,” declared another. “The Nazis would have loved it,” one man raged
    • marygorman95
       
      She wants people to agree with her opinion of the book, so she's showing us she's not the only one who feels it's negative. 
    • sparton2
       
      The comments she used seem to be strong in negativity, people may not have liked the book but she choose harsh comments to include
  • “The Giving Tree” is not a children’s book like the useful, humble classic “Hands Are Not for Hitting.” The tale is not exemplary.
    • marygorman95
       
      The book does not give a literal message. Usually younger kids don't understand what the message is, because it calls for interpretation. 
  • “Happy” is the last word of the story, and in interviews Shel Silverstein explained that it took him years to find a publisher for “The Giving Tree” — that it had been important to him that he keep what he called the sad ending.
    • marygorman95
       
      I feel like this is irony. Although it ends in the word "happy" it's actually a sad ending.
    • tyvon014
       
      i dont think it is irony because, it says that hes happy for his accomplishment.
  • A passionate and very vocal minority of reviewers
    • tyvon014
       
      great use of the adjectives 
  • When I read the book again these 30-some years later, my only brief reservation — that it should somehow have been funny, that funny might have saved
    • tyvon014
       
      sometimes the author should take the audience into consideration.
  • Saroyan
  • The boy uses the tree as a plaything, lives off her like a parasite, and then, when she’s a shell of her former self and no longer serves any real purpose, he sits on her
    • erindn
       
      That's an awfully negative way of viewing the plot. It should be taken at face value as a children story representing the gift of nature, both maternal and literal.
  • As for the argument that “The Giving Tree” is somehow a commentary on the ways humans ravage the environment, I mean, maybe? The tree of Silverstein’s imagination, unlike most other trees felled by humans, suffers mightily but never dies,
    • erindn
       
      Perhaps this means that this story shouldn't be a children's story since many are making the plot to be such a controversial issue.
  • Readers cite it as a cautionary tale regarding both the social welfare state and the obscenity that is late-stage capitalism.
    • erindn
       
      If this is supposed to be a children's story, in which the intended audience are children, then why would the 'audience' think of this. I'm not even thinking of this, none the less would a child.
  • Boy meets adoring, obliging apple tree and eventually, through a combination of utter impotence and blatant manipulation, makes off with her branches, her trunk and, of course, the literal fruits of her labor.
    • erindn
       
      With an adult mind you can tell the boy is being a bit manipulative but with a child's mind, the only thing that I think can be recognized would be the caring given through sacrifice. At least the tree wasn't acting like an martyr.
  • “The Giving Tree”
    • erindn
       
      This whole article, and the story, reminded me of a song that I once heard. Now I have the tune stuck in my head and have to go find out what that song was.
  • “If only she’d set limits, she wouldn’t be a stump today!”
    • erindn
       
      Sometimes people give and give until there is nothing left. It has nothing to do with limits and more to do with a mindset that borders on saint like.
  • but to those who would say that Silverstein’s book is a moving, sentimental depic
  • tion of the unyielding love of a parent for a child, I’d say, Learn better parenting skills
  • I refuse to read it to my kids or my friends’ kids,” he wrote in an email. “I think that book has done more damage to fragile young psyches than any other kids’ book in the last 50 years. (O.K., maybe I’m exaggerating a bit, but you get the idea.)”
  • the last 50 years. (O.K., maybe I’m exaggerating a bit, but you get the idea.)”
erindn

'The Giving Tree': Tender Story of Unconditional Love or Disturbing Tale of Selfishness... - 5 views

    • erindn
       
      That's an awfully broad accusation. All books have a middle ground, just becasue its well liked or hated doesnt mean that there isnt at least one person that is indifferent about the story.
kproper

W.E.B. DuBois Critiques Booker T. Washington - 25 views

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    • tthomasuscu
       
      It is interesting that DuBois summarizes for this audience/
  • To gain the sympathy and cooperation of the various elements comprising the white South was Mr. Washington’s first task
  • Next to this achievement comes Mr. Washington’s work in gaining place and consideration in the North
    • tthomasuscu
       
      DuBois transitions into more discussion of Washington's methods.
    • trellababy
       
      I like how DuBois pointed out the flaws of Washington and showed expressions towards it.
    • trellababy
       
      DuBois pointed out that black men have a duty in this world and says that we must follow in Washington's footsteps.
    • trellababy
       
      He notices that Washington has imposed movements in the South and he doesn't know that it is hurting the Negro's. I like how he lets the readers know that technically Washington knew what he was doing but being smart and using common sense didn't really click.
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    • Myra J
       
      People were surprised that Washington was as educated and surprised at his positive approach to win the North
  • In all things purely social we can be as separate as the five fingers, and yet one as the hand in all things essential to mutual progress.”
    • Myra J
       
      I like how he compares the social world to a hand and fingers
    • savannahroach
       
      I agree with Myra J. I love how he uses this and how It caught my attention while I was reading.
    • marygorman95
       
      This stood out to me as well. I really like this simile! It's very true if you think about it. 
  • And yet the time is come when one may speak in all sincerity and utter courtesy of the mistakes and shortcomings of Mr. Washington’s career, as well as of his triumphs, without being thought captious or envious, and without forgetting that it is easier to do ill than well in the world.
  • being
    • Myra J
       
      It is easier to do ill than well is what I like about this. Doing wrong seems to be easier than doing right most of the time to people
  • The criticism that has hitherto met Mr. Washington has not always been of this broad character. In the South especially has he had to walk warily to avoid the harshest judgments,—and naturally so, for he is dealing with the one subject of deepest sensitiveness to that section.
    • Myra J
       
      The South forced him to hide his broad character
  • First, it is the duty of black men to judge the South discriminatingly.
    • Myra J
       
      we should understand where we come from
  • And yet ten years later it was done in the word spoken at Atlanta
    • marygorman95
       
      This shows that he was obviously very persuasive, and probably respected, because people ended up agreeing with him.
  • Walker’s wild appeal against
    • marygorman95
       
      Alliteration to draw us in for this next paragraph.
  • Walker’s wild appeal against
  • Walker’s wild appeal agains
  • It startled the nation to hear a Negro advocating such a programme after many decades of bitter complaint; it startled and won the applause of the South, it interested and won the admiration of the North; and after a confused murmur of protest, it silenced if it did not convert the Negroes themselves.
    • opstokes
       
      it's cool how Booker T. Washington was able to have his message reach the whole country,especially white southerns who could have easily dismissed his ideas
  • To gain the sympathy and cooperation of the v
  • he time Tuskegee was founded, seemed, for a black man, well-nigh impossible
  • r a black man, well-nigh imposs
  • and perfect faith into this programme, and changed it from a by-path into a veritable Way of Life. And the tale of the methods by which
  • but as Mr. Washington knew the heart of the South from birth and training, so by singular insight he intuitively grasped the spirit of the age which was dominating the North. And so thoroughly did he learn the speech and thought of triumphant commercialism, and the ideals of material prosperity that the picture of a lone black boy poring over a French grammar amid the weeds and dirt of a neglected home soon seemed to him the acme of absurdities. One wonders what Socrates and St. Francis of Assisi would say to this.
    • opstokes
       
      I think Washington's knowledge of southern people helped him create a strategy because he knew what was important to them
  • Some of this opposition is, of course, mere envy; the disappointment of displaced demagogues and the spite of narrow minds. But aside from this, there is among educated and thoughtful colored men in all parts of the land a feeling of deep regret, sorrow, and apprehension at the wide currency and ascendancy which some of Mr. Washington’s theories have gained. These same men admire his sincerity of purpose, and are willing to forgive much to honest endeavor which is doing something worth the doing. They cooperate with Mr. Washington as far as they conscientiously can; and, indeed, it is no ordinary tribute to this man’s tact and power that, steering as he must between so many diverse interests and opinions, he so largely retains the respect of all.
    • opstokes
       
      it's ironic how the people Washington wanted to help were the ones who disliked him the most.I think they respected his education and his method,but the ideas didn't match how some of them saw their lives wanting to be in the future.
  • Honest and earnest criticism from those whose interests are most nearly touched,—criticism of writers by readers, of government by those governed, of leaders by those led, — this is the soul of democracy and the safeguard of modern society. If the best of the Ame
    • opstokes
       
      I do think we should have be somewhat critical about the ideas and values people promote.I think the lack of criticism was the cause of cycles like the similarities between how Tom and Rufus treated their slaves.If society would have questioned more it is possible things like slavery would have not lasted as long as it did.
  • But when to earth and brute is added an environment of men and ideas, then the attitude of the imprisoned group may take three main forms, — a feeling of revolt and revenge; an attempt to adjust all thought and action to the will of the greater group; or, finally, a determined effort at self-realization and self-development despite environing opinion. The influence of all of these attitudes at various times can be traced in the history of the American Negro, and in the evolution of his successive leaders.
    • opstokes
       
      This shows the complex and different ideas slaves had,maybe why some African Americans didn't agree with Washington is because they had different goals than he did
  • Before 1750, while the fire of African freedom still burned in the veins of the slaves, there was in all leadership or attempted leadership but the one motive of revolt and revenge,—typified in the terrible Maroons, the Danish blacks, and Cato of Stono, and veiling all the Americas in fear of insurrection.
    • opstokes
       
      I think it is important to realize there was probably more hope and energy surrounding the freedom and equality of slaves,however as time goes by you see less people believe it is possible 
  • First, political power,Second, insistence on civil rights,Third, higher education of Negro youth
    • opstokes
       
      i think this is the major reason why other African Americans disagreed with Washington.They probably saw things like voting or educating their children as hopes for the future and didn't want to support Washington if he didn't view these as important.Some slaves realized the power behind being able to read,write and vote in an election and they too wanted that power.
  • and concentrate all their energies on industrial education, the accumulation of wealth, and the conciliation of the South
    • opstokes
       
      Washington's ideas seem to be similar to the what the North was trying to do after reconstruction.
    • opstokes
       
      African Americans might have also seen that the whites who were working industrial jobs were also struggling,they weren't making much money and they typically didn't have nice living situation or working conditions,so I can understand why they weren't interested in those types of jobs  
  • 3. He advocates common-school and industrial training, and depreciates institutions of higher learning; but neither the Negro common-schools, nor Tuskegee itself, could remain open a day were it not for teachers trained in Negro colleges, or trained by their graduates.
    • opstokes
       
      I think this shows the flaws in Washington's ideas.He doesn't want people to get an education yet something he already has would crumple without people continuing to get educations
  • The black men of America have a duty to perform, a duty stern and delicate,—a forward movement to oppose a part of the work of their greatest leader. So far as Mr. Washington preaches Thrift, Patience, and Industrial Training for the masses, we must hold up his hands and strive with him, rejoicing in his honors and glorying in the strength of this Joshua called of God and of man to lead the headless host. But so far as Mr. Washington apologizes for injustice, North or South, does not rightly value the privilege and duty of voting, belittles the emasculating effects of caste distinctions, and opposes the higher training and ambition of our brighter minds,—so far as he, the South, or the Nation, does this,—we must unceasingly and firmly oppose them.
    • opstokes
       
      Again you see the different opinions about what African Americans want to support but at the same time one of the most powerful African American men at that time doesn't support what other African Americans want and it would be difficult for those other voices to be heard.
  • If history and reason give any distinct answer to these questions, it is an emphatic No. And Mr. Washington thus faces the triple paradox of his career
    • opstokes
       
      I think this is powerful because Washington doesn't see education as important for all African American people but at the same time how can they prosper and gain things like the right to vote without at least a basic education
  • This“Atlanta Compromise” is by all odds the most notable thing in Mr. Washington’s career.
    • heatherann96
       
      "The Atlanta Compromise" affected thousands of people. That's why it was so notable.
  • It is as though Nature must needs make men narrow in order to give them force.
    • heatherann96
       
      I think this is saying that people need to be independent and self thinking to be powerful in a society.
  • "We hold these truths to be self-evident: That all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creater with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
    • heatherann96
       
      This is so important because during slavery, this statement was not fact. Blacks were treated poorly compared to whites.
    • erindn
       
      Human life and experience is centered on social actions and reactions. To say progress is not connected with social interactions is not only naive by impossible.
    • erindn
       
      Hah, Ive seen may old men still talk much of what they dont know about things they think they know about. Its not age that gives people force, but experience and they dont alwasy go together.
    • erindn
       
      Unfortunatly I cant say this treatment is uncomon. Even I must admit that I have felt hatred toward another, unasked for, for nothing more then what they had and I didnt, whether that be material items or personal characteristics.
    • erindn
       
      Sounds like a politician to me
    • erindn
       
      Seems like its talking about the human's natural instinct to fight when harmed and bite a hand of help seeing it as the hand that strikes
    • erindn
       
      All my life I have only seen change occur with constant revolt and fight. If you stay quiet and lie down, then who will listen to you?
    • erindn
       
      I can understand his objective to start small with a touchy subject, but I will never agree that tactic will work, especially when involving people.
    • erindn
       
      When was this written again, becasue I swear that comment could have worked for yesterday.
  • it startled and won the
  • it silenced if it did not
    • kproper
       
      I like how the critique starts off like this.
  • hitherto
    • kproper
       
      I am confused about the word hitherto. I will have to look it up
  • . But he
  • Nearly all the former ones had become leaders by the silent suffrage of their fellows, had sought to lead their own people alone, and were usually, save Douglass, little known outside their race.
  • or a time Price arose as a new leader, destined, it seemed, not to give up, but to re-state the old ideals in a form less repugnant to the white South.
  • But he passed away in his prime. Then came the new leader
    • kproper
       
      Du Bois' world was divided by a color-line and he is allowing the readers to understand how African Americans and white were treated differently.
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